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have you ever wanted to try deep fried pumpkin spice latte. mark wants some deep fried re. ce's cups. simon wants a deep fried beef burrito with cheddar cheese. there is a deep fried stick of butter. happened at the iowa state fair. i am gretchen carlson. islamic state fighters gain ground in iraq and syria. president obama holds a strategy session meeting with his joint chiefs from more than 20 countries. can they figure out a way to stop the terrorists bloody maure march. >> we are expecting to hear from the head of the cdc. we learn american ebb ola survir has tried to help out a nurse in texas. what he has done. a new warning from the world
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health organization about what colorado ne could come next. how it is killing people at a higher rate than scientists first estimated? breaking news from the centers or disease control and prevention. where minutes from now, we are waiting to are a live news conference from the cdc on the ebola patient in dallas, that 26-year-old nurse. she is the first person in the entire country to become infected. it happened while she was caring for a patient in dallas who ultimately died of ebola. other breaking news this hour. we've just learned that for the first time in american history, scientists are testing an ebola vaccine on people. it is happening in maryland with 39 volunteers and it started yesterday. back to the cdc, we expect an update on the outbreak in west africa, that as the world health organization is warning the number of ebola cases in west africa could skyrocket in just a couple of months if
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workers there do not step up their efforts to contain it. officials say in the last month, there have been about 1,000 new cases in west africa each week. they say that includes confirmed, suspected and probable cases. they go on to say this, if the response does not pick up, that number could jump to 10,000 cases per week by the middle of december. they also say the death rate of this outbreak has gone up. they used to say 50%. now, they say 70%. 7 of 10 patients that get ebola dies of ebola. the death rate for something like the flu epidemic is less than 2%. clearly, this is not flu. more than 4,000 people in west africa have now died. in dallas, we are hearing for the first time from the nurse that contracted ebola. the hospital issued a statement in which the nurse, nina pham said, and i quote, i'm doing well and i want to thapg everyone for their kind wishes and prayers. i'm blessed by the support of
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family and friends and am blessed to be cared for by the best team of doctors and nurses in the world here at texas health presbyterian hospital dallas. the nurse is now also getting plasma, a component of blood, of course. the plasma comes from dr. kent brantly. dr. kent brantly, back in august, flew him back from liberia. they gave him an experimental drug and he fought off the virus. very important to note. the nurse is right now the only person ever to have contracted ebola in the united states, one person, the nurse who says she is doing just fine and is blessed. officials say you need to have direct contact with someone who is showing symptoms or recently died of the virus. again, she was treating the patient, who was very sick and about to die. bottom line, ebola is not spreading in america. it is not. it has not.
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it isn't. we are live at the hospital in dallas. what do we know about this possible vaccine alicia? >> reporter: shep, what we are being told is that this is actually the first test being done on a human for an ebola vaccine, not only in the united states but also in the world. it started at 9:15 a.m. eastern yesterday at the walter reed army institute of research. they are testing canadian-made ebola made vaccine on 39 healthy volunteers. the first subject was injected yesterday. right now, officials are saying there is no reason for them to believe they need to quarantine these healthy individuals who they have injected with this vaccine. in part, because they are not injecting the whole virus into these individuals. it is aegea gene, a portion of virus mixed with other into these subjects.
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we are waiting before we know how much or how well or even if this will be able to be used. this mimics similar testing and similar vaccines that are being used right now, or are being tested, rather, in europe. shep? >> there is this one guy in kansas that worked in west africa. we are waiting to find out how he is doing, right? >> yes, that's right. the university of kansas hospital in kansas city, kansas, says they are hoping to have some initial test results later on this afternoon or early this evening. this gentleman is someone who worked on a medical boat. he said he had been treating multiple different people with multiple different illnesses so he was exposed to a variety of different things. he walked in, after calling ahead of time, l he had a high fever. he walked in with a high fever and other symptoms. they put him in an isolated area of the hospital and began treatment. the doctors say they want people to know that they feel they can contain this. they have not diagnosed ebola.
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they are still awaiting test results. they are still trying to eliminate a number of other things. they will have initial results later on this afternoon. they have also sent out his blood work to two other outside labs. the results from those -- from that testing isn't expected until later this week. we will have combined information coming in as the days go on. they don't want to send out any panic. they have someone there. he is in isolation. he hits a lot of the markers people are looking for in terms of the isolated population that can be affected by ebola. he was in west africa. he was with people who were sick. he went to a hospital. this is not someone who was walking around in the general population and then started to feel sick. they walked in and said, oh, you might have ebola. very specific populations here. health is care workers and people that have been in west africa. >> so specific. it is not spreading in america. alicia, it is great to see you. thanks for the content and perspective. the news conference was to have
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gun at 3:00 eastern daylight. while we wait, i will have a question for our news desk people. they don't know this is coming. jump back and show them. news deck people, how many of you have had the flu shot? flu shot? one, two, three, four flu shots out of ten people. last year, flu killed 53,000 americans, flu and the complications that come along with with it because of pneumonia. 53,000 people died, got the flu in the united states and died of it. half of the people in this room, i am included in the bad half, have not gotten flu vaccines, yet 53,000 people died last year of flu. one human being in the united states of america has contracted ebola in the history of ebola in the history of the world, one. very sad that this nurse who was working very hard in a hospital to save a man who died also now has ebola.
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first one ever in the united states. she says she is blessed, that she is doing fine. she has skyped with her family. one person. one ebola. 53,000 dead americans last year of flu. if you are panicking, you are making a horrible mistake. i recommend rest and maybe a vacation. when the news conference begins, as you can see, the media briefing will begin shortly and when it does, we will take you there. first, a major battle is raging in iraq and an important air base could be hanging in the balance. that's when fox news sources tell us the islamic state militants have another iraqi town surrounded and under siege. we will show you where all of this is happening. the town is khan al baghdadi, west of bag dan. they are threatening the most important air base this all of
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western iraq, not part from the town of hit. that's the islamic state seized yesterday. they got hit yesterday and went past the base and they are trying to get this other base. it is along the towns that isis controls, including fallujah and ramadi. the u.s. dish air strikes have not stopped the islamic spread. the fighting on the ground, they are not fighting. they wait untisis comes and theo away. they are telling us we will monitor video coming out of the meeting. let's get to ed henry at the white house. are you hearing anything about the strategy changes that could come out of this big meeting? >> reporter: i pressured them on that point. they are looking where they can tweak it. it is clear the president is not planning a major shifting strategy. are we winning right now? he had an interesting answer.
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listen. >> reporter: are we winning? >> we are talking about a coalition of 60 nations working closely with iraqi security forces and working to build up the opposition fighters. there is no doubt we can point to success in enter early days. >> reporter: they believe there has been success in the early days of this campaign. as you lay out the facts on the ground, shep, when you have entire key towns on the road to baghdad, surrounded by isis militants right now, it is hard to see the success. it obviously suggests a lot of tough days ahead. >> they have said from the very beginning, first of all, there is no military solution beginning with that. then, they said these iraqi security forces to this day who have not stood up once at all ever. we have to have them stand up. are they standing up? >> reporter: no. not everywhere or not in a lot of places. you mentioned the town of hit where there is an iraqi military
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base. it was run over by ice sis militants. why? we are told there were about 400 of the iraqi security forces there and they went into retreat. they could not push isis back. retired general, jack keane, says this is a huge problem. it suggests after all these years of training, eequiping, all the money the u.s. has poured in, these iraqi troops are still not quite ready for battle. >> the fact of the matter is, isis is still advancing despite two months of air strikes. those air strikes haven't been nearly as effective as they can be, because we have failed to put air ground controllers with the force on the ground that could guide those air strikes. >> that may be the key question moving forward. the president has said again and again, the american people do not want to send a large number of u.s. troops back on to the ground in combat inside iraq, specially not in syria either by the way, where we are waiting for the rebels to stand up.
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they are being trained now. the iraqi security forces, we hope, will be able to stand on their own two feet. >> ed henry at the white house. ed, thanks very much. >> here is the thinking. >> if you put boots on the ground over there, then what? >> we have already been told by our military leaders, that there is no military solution. yet, there are people out there screaming right now, just send in the boots, send them in now, because everything has gone so well over there recently, really. >> breaking news now. tom frieden has just walked to the microphone, the director of the cdc talking about ebb bo ol. >> what we are doing to improve the safety and what's going on with with contract tracing in dallas? i am delighted to be joined by dr. david lahey, in texas along with the excellent team from the texas state and the county health departments as well as more than 20 staff from cdc who
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are helping with all aspects of the response. >> in dallas, what we have done over the past 48 hours to improve infection control there is send a team into the field. we've sent cdc's most experienced staff, people who have worked ond ebola outbreaks for decades, people who have stopped ebola outbreaks in very difficult situations in africa, people who are experts leading the world in everything from laboratory science to infection control to hospital administration. we are working hand in glove, side by side with the folks at the hospital and with the teams from the health departments in texas as well as the county leadership and the state. some of the things that the teams are doing to improve safety are looking at every step
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in the procedures. those experts are making immediate enhancements in what's being done. i'll mention three in particular, although they are three of just a large series. the first and most important is ensuring that every hour of the day, there is a site manager there who is overseeing aspects of infection control. that individual makes sure that the personal protective equipment is put on correctly and taken off correctly. in fact, in our work, stopping ebola in africa, this is the single most important position to protect health workers. a single site manager who is expert and oversees every aspect of the process. second, we're enhancing training. on going, refresher, repeat training, including by two
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nurses from emory, who cared for ebb ebola patients and are assisting and training nurses and other staff at the hospital in dallas. third, we are recommending that the number of staff who go in for care be limited. we want to limit the number of staff who are provided care so that they can become more familiar and more systematic in how they put on and take off protective equipment and they can become more comfortable in a healthy way with providing care in the isolation unit. those three general steps are very important and we're also doing many other things, looking at everything from the type of personal protective equipment used to the procedure for putting it on and the procedure for taking it off. now, i've been hearing loud and clear from health care workers from around the country that
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they are worried, that they don't feel prepared to take care of a patient with ebola, that they are very distressed that one of our colleagues now has contracted ebola and is fighting the infection in dallas. a single infection in a health care worker is unacceptable. what we are doing at this point is looking at everything we can do to minimize that risk so those who are caring for her do that safely and effectively. there are certain additional th things that we will be doing going forward. one thing we want to make sure is that whatever is done with where care is provided, every hospital in the country needs to be ready to diagnose ebola. that means that every doctor, every nurse, every staff person in the emergency department who cares for someone with fever or other signs of infection needs to ask, where have you been in
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the past month? where have you been in the past 21 days? have you been to liberia, sierra leone or guinea? that's important. that will reduce the risk that someone will come into a hospital and not be diagnosed. usually, infections in health care setting spread from someone who is not yet diagnosed. we have to shore up the diagnosis of people who have symptoms and who have traveled. the second thing that we will be doing starting today is establishing a cdc ebola response team for any hospital anywhere in the country that has a confirmed case of ebola. we will put a team on the ground within hours, with some of the world's leading experts in how to take care of and protect health care workers from e-bola
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infection. experts in infection control, in laboratory science, in personal protective equipment, in management of ebola units, experts who will assist with experimental therapies, public education, and environmental controls. we have at cdc some of the an salute best experts in the world. they have devoted their lives to stopping ebola. many of them like myself are physicians trained in infectious diseases and public health. others are experts in contact tracing to epidemiology to what it takes to stop an outbreak in different settings. they will look at everything from the physical layout of care to the peshl protective equipment used. they will bring supplies of personal protective equipment. they will assist with transport of patients should that become necessary. they will assist with waste
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management and decontamination. in addition, for training of health care workers throughout the country, we will be ramping up webinars and outreaches. i would like to turn to the situation in dallas in terms of infection control. i'm sorry. in terms of contact, and outline where we are. first, our understanding is that the nurse remains in stable condition. we are thinking of her. i am thinking of her constantly and hoping for her steady recovery. for the first patient, the index patient, as we call him, there were 48 contacts. those contacts have now passed more than two-thirds of their risk period. they have all passed more than
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14 days. while it wouldn't be impossible that some of them would develop the disease, they have now passed through the highest risk period. it is decreasingly likely that any of them will develop ebola. second, for the nurse who is now hospitalized, there was one, and only one, contact. that is a representation of what happens when you do active monitoring, when you do contact tracing and encourage people to come in for care promptly. in the first patient who had ebola in the u.s., 48 potential contacts. the second, one potential contact. that individual had contact before the nurse was severely ill. the nurse is not severely ill now. generally, people are not highly infectious at that point. we will hope that he does not develop infection. third, since the nurse did develop infection, we can't rule
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out that other people who cared for the individual -- the first patient, the index case, had exposure. our teams have been working very hard to cast a wide net and identify everyone who might have been exposed in that circumstance. that includes anyone who went into the room and that includes people who might have handled specimens of blood that were taken from him. at this point, the team has identified 76 individuals who might have had exposure to the index patient. of those 76 individuals, all will be monitored for fever or symptoms on a daily basis actively. i know it is in the media. there are several of those individuals who have been concerned about their health and have come in for care and been evaluated.
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dr. leahy will outline the results. i will share, it is very anxiety provoking to have had a potential exposure from ebola. when i had gotten back from west africa, i had gone in the ebola treatment units. every time i had the slightest sore throat and headache, i was concerned. that's what we want health care workers to do, be concerned about their health if they are in their group of 76 individuals. if so, come in for care rapidly so that you can be assessed. we would much rather see a false alarm than someone who let's their illness go on for a day and potentially get sicker and potentially expose others. so that's the system as it should work. we want people to come in if they have any symptoms. given that there was one patient, the second patient, the nurse, did get infected. it is possible we will see other people. we hope that won't be the case. i don't want anyone to take out
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of this that there were 76 exposed people. there were 76 people who had some level of contact, and, therefore, are being actively monitored. i'll stop there and turn it over to dr. laky for details of those individuals and anything else you would like to say. david? >> thank you, dr. frieden. good afternoon, everyone. it has been 14 days since the first case of ebb bo he la was diagnosed in the united states. we have had a very busy time here since the passing of mr. duncan, we have unfortunately had one additional case. we know that is one too many. we into you that was a possibility. if she is listening, again, we are thinking about you and doing everything we can to make sure you get the treatment you need. we have a force here on the ground in texas to make sure this is contained. we have state leadership, teams from the cdc, the local partners all working
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together to confront this. health care workers are understandably worried. our top priority is their safety and the health of everyone in texas. i had the opportunity yesterday to go to the hospital and talk in detail with the team that's there on the ground at presbyterian hospital. that team consists of the cdc individuals from, state epidemiologists, from the local health department. we are fortunate enough to have two nurses from emory heren on the ground and working in concert with the hospital. they are looking at every detail of control. they have the best international experts here on the ground at presbyterian. the group of people originally identified as contacts, the 48 individuals, have passed the critical period as dr. frieden outlined. they are doing well. the good news is that they continue to do well.
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the one close contact of the health care worker is also doing well and has no symptoms. that person is being actively monitored. we are also caring for and monitoring the health care worker's dog. that is going well. we are actively monitoring a group of health care workers as dr. frieden noted who were previously self-monitored and had contact with mr. duncan. they are all doing well. if symptoms, even minimal symptoms, are detected, those individuals will be isolated and very likely tested for ebola. we really do want to err on the side of caution. when people exhibit symptoms, this he are identified extremely qu quickly due to vigilant monitoring. no additional cases of ebola have been detected. there is a lot of anxiety among workers. we want to calm their fierce ea.
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we will announce any positive result. we are committed to giving you that information. we have a large number of individuals now under active surveillance. that seems to be going well due to that partnership between the federal government, the state government and the local government working at the hospital. we are all very committed to fighting ebola here in dallas. it is our singular focus with experts across the state and country w with that, dr. frieden, i would like to hand it back over to you. >> thank you. we will now take questions starting in the room. >> "new york times." how many of the 76 were health care workers, do we know? >> they were all health care workers. all of the people exposed to the second patient were health care workers, except the one close contact i mentioned. i'm sorry. i said that wrong. the 76 were all exposed to
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the -- let me say it again so we get it all right. there are a lot of numbers. let's get them straight. first off, the first patient, the index patient, before he was hospitalized, had exposure or potential exposures to 48 people. second, once he was hospitalized, there were at least 76 people who might have come in contact with him or his blood and who are being monitored now. we may identify a few more as we go through records and identify other information. that's the number who may have participated in some way in the care of the index patient. there is also one individual who was exposed to the second patient before she was isolated. >> reporter: january is mcdonald, abc. we understand each hospital has to be able to diagnose an ebola patient. once they are diagnosed, why not
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then transfer them to one of the high-level containment centers? >> questiwe are looking athe a options and that's one of the things the ebola response team would consider. >> doug stoddard with nbc news. it is our understanding the nurse who was infected had received her certification for critical care nursing about two months ago. are you comfortable with that level of experience treating ebb ebola patients? >> i think what we are dealing with is a disease that is unfamili unfamiliar in the u.s. care forg e caring for ebola can be done but it is hard. we want to make sure the workers are there on the ground so we can assist. i have thought often about t i wish we had put a team like this on the ground the day the first
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patient was diagnosed. that might have prevented this infection. we will do that from today onward with any case anywhere in the u.s. on the phone. >> you are on the phone lines. if you would like to answer a question, press star one. one moment, please. >> our first questions comes from meg terrell with cnbc. you may ask your question. >> hi, guys. i am just wondering, are you concerned about health care workers feeling safe and well-prepared on the job, concerned at all that folks will be afraid to come to work? >> we are concerned that if health care workers are afraid to come to work or patients are afraid to go to hospitals or health care settings, we could see wider health care impacts. it is so important that we focus on what will work here. we know how to stop ebola. we no know care has been provid
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in hospitals throughout africa without infections. with he know it is hard. we know a single breach can cause an infection. a single slip can cause an infection. that's why we are looking at every aspects of the procedures so that we can make them safer and we are empowering health care workers with information. when you are concerned about something, when you are worried about it, i find it is always helpful to get more information about it so you can juunderstan it more fully. when we understand ebola doesn't spread, that helps us understand where the risk is. they get the fact that they have to take a travel history from anyone with fever and a sign of infection. that gives them the tools to protect themselves. they are the health care workers caring for the nurse in dallas. concrete information on what they can do to keep their risk to the absolute minimum, can address that fear and keep us able to respond to the needs of the community. next question on the phone?
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>> the next question comes from marion falco with cnn medical news. you may ask your question. >> reporter: a clarification and then a question. did you say that the of the 48 people who were in contact with the index patient, because they are passed 14 days, that they are unlikely to get ebola? >> yes. two-thirds of the incubation period is far more than two-thirds of the risk. moes most of the cases happen between the 8-10 day window. we put it out to 21 to be on the safe side. it doesn't rule out there could be cases among those individuals but it would be unusual. your question? >> next question comes from jackie bishop request "newsweek." you may ask your question. >> reporter: i would like to find out what, if anything, the cdc has learned from the response in west africa by
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organizations of doctors without borders? >> we work very closely with msf, doctors withoborders. we have underdone and participated in and replicated their training course here. we have worked side by side with them in africa. we have a very close partnership and relationship with them. one of the challenges is that the african and u.s. environment are different in terms of health care. so things that are done routinely in africa in ebola parts aren't necessarily transferable to the environment in the u.s. we think they do a terrific job. we work very closely with them. next question on the phone? >> one moment, please. >> the next question comes from jack fink with cbs 11 dallas. here is the whole story. this is everything that is important for this moment. it is not spreading.
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one person has contracted ebola in the united states of america. that one person was a health care worker. that health care worker was treating a person who has since died sadly. there has been one case of ebola in america and it is not spreading. you have no reason to fear. alicia acuna with the hospital outside dallas. this is great news. ebola is not spreading to anyone at all. >> reporter: exactly, shepard. dr. frieden mentioned that incubation period, which is 8-10 days after any kind of exposure. the people with thomas duncan, those 48 people, they have passed that critical period of 8-10 days. the cdc extended it to 21 days just to be on the safe side. in his words, they are trying to calm anxiety. he has felt that anxiety himself. hea also did a comparison of the way the u.s. handled this situation. the african nations and the hospital facilities there.
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we have also heard that there is a cultural burial that they are trying to cross with regards to ebola and western africa, specially when it comes to the dead. when it comes to the dead in western africa. some of these villages, the people will wash the bodies. that's immediate transmission. that's exactly how that can happen. we have seen it spread so quickly. this is one way it happens. we don't do that here. that's a very simple fact. there is a tremendous difference between what is happening in western africa and what is happening in the united states. our capability to handle things here and jump on the situation here in a very different way. this ability to try to educate viewers. to try to educate the american public, health care workers, hospitals, e.r.s, that sort of thing. that was the overall message that i got from this. it is time for everybody to calm down. >> calm down. that's the key. it is okay. when it is serious, we will give you a jingle. alicia acuna, thanks.
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it is certainly serious in west africa. it is not in the united states. scientists say the ebola outbreak is not our only health concern either. you should now begin worrying about rats. the rats here in new york city are carrying a long list of very nasty diseases, ones scientists have never seen before in this area and a bunch of others that are brand new to science here on planet earth. our rats here in new york, our rats have it. that's one of the stomach-churning findings in a new study from columbia university. rats are carrying e-coli, salmonella and the closest relative to a virus that causes help c and a disease that has symptoms very similar to ebola, seoul hantavirus. they have found 18 new viruses
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brand new to science on earth. 18 found noenl our exclusive and awesome new york city rats. it is important to note that they didn't find any rats with ebola. it is not spreading in the united states. even the rats don't have it. only one person has died of the disease in the united states. only one person has contracted it, one. how did this rat research go down? they trapped more than 130 rats for this study. where did they get the rats, shepard? they got them in new york city apartment buildings. any new yorker knows, there is no shortage of rats here. complaints have been on the rise for more than 22000 rat complaints in 2012, to more than 24,000 rat complaints in 2013 and i hear 2014 is going to be an all new record. they also say complaints have increased this year and that the city has been slow to respond. researchers say they don't know how often rats make humans sick but a lead scientist in the study says, and i quote, they
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are all over the city, uptown, downtown and underground. they collect microbes and amplify them. because they live close to people, there is ample opportunity for exchange. "the new york times" newspaper, health officials are looking at bl blood samples from the people to see whether the diseases from the rats are moving to the people. the study will not change the way the city deals with rats and why would it? doctor natalie nasr is a physician at new york medical facility. very prestigious and awesome. we have 18 unknown diseases that live in our awesome rats. >> a couple that are really close to hepc.
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i feel bad for the people that did the test on the 133 rats. >> and the people that lived in the apartment buildings where they found them. >> checking their blood and feces and tissue and urine. that's really dirt work. i always like to say, what do learn from it? they are going to check people's blood to see if they are similar. there are unknown pathogens. can we study the rats? it becomes a novel way. we are using cell lines and things like that. if we can actually sort of mimic or have a correlation in a rat and see how they deal with and how they get sick and we can treat, humans may be able to benefit. >> they have all these things that we don't have, not to say we won't ever have them. now, we can begin planning for them in case we get them.
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>> they are rodents. we do see different kinds of diseases in different animals in our animal kingdom. it is not necessarily they are all of the sudden going to become a reservoir for human disease. for everyone out there who hates rats and i guess that includes every new yorker, they will feel vindicated. they are such dirt animals. >> i don't hate them. they provide endless entertainment on the subway platforms. >> you see one rat and there are 1 million of them. >> 1 million more behind every rat you see. that's what they say. they run around. they know you can't get to them, because they are down there by the third rail. you can't get to them. they know they can run around, eat chips, overturn a coke or something and look up at you like ha, ha, ha. i find them entertaining. >> we shouldn't be surprised by that. we live in our environment and we share our world with a lot of other organisms and rats are one of them.
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apparently, a lot of people in the infectious disease and public health world were interested in this study. it was well done, well designed. >> did you see "the voice" last night? >> yes, yes. we watched "the voice" last night. >> that was the best battle i have ever seen? >> which one, the last one? >> duke and griffin? >> we turned it off before that. we did the destiny's child one. >> we don't normally talk about programs on other channels. it is really dumb to do that. my goodness, that was good. >> it puts other shows to shame. i won't mention those either. >> all right. >> we watch all of them. >> they watch us all day. doctor, it is into is to see you. fear not the rats and the ebola. a former white house national security director is predicting with he will see a big change in strategy in the war on the islamic state
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fighters. it will likely involve the syrian dictator bashar al alhasa. he has murdered more than 200,000 people. what do we do now with the man that murdered more than 200,000 people? let's say we team up with imhad. what about that? how would that go if we enter a civil war in another nation on another continent we know nothing about. let's join up with a guy that has murdered 200,000 people. >> don't ask me my opinion on this. >> don't ask me mine either. we'll be right back.
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syria next to turkeyour team recorded that air strike. we have been telling you the fight has been happening for weeks. our crew got this shot of a fighter jet over the town. the pentagon reports american and saudi jets did conduct more than 20 air strikes near the town of kobani. that's the most in a single 24-hour period since the air campaign started. over on our wall, i want to show you where that town is located. i don't want to walk there. just let the cam ral era do it. kobani is not a couple of miles to the border of turkey. hundreds of thousands of refugees have crossed into turkey because of the fighting. r.p. eddy is with us, currently the ceo of global intelligence firm ergo. i have been listening to people who suggest we should put all
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the troops on the plane and send them over there and let them start fighting another war. they are high, right? >> the problem is it presumes this is our fight and our battle. it is not. it is a regional challenge. we need the country that is border iraq and syria to take this more seriously. part of what the president is trying to get accomplished now. maybe a day late and a dollar short. he needs to build that coalition for them them. >> i get it peshmerga will. >> there is the iraqi military, which is very deficient and peshmerga, very capable and very small. we have very little confidence in either force to defend baghdad. what you have to have happen next is the shias have to move out of baghdad and address ice si isis. we can't have any confidence in
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the iraqi and peshmerga military. we have to find them and bring them in. it is not a matter of stopping isis. it will be a multiyear battle before they are gone. it is a matter of containing them for now. >> like we contained saddam hussein for years and years. had a no-fly zone. he wasn't able to do anything. >> it is a highly different threat. in some instances, isis is more of a regional problem. saddam did recognize borders. he took kuwait but other than that he was staying in his box. isis wants to grow and move. that's part of the problem with turkey. they see isis on the border there. they are terrified. they can't protect their border. they don't want to get engaged and stir the pot or rattle the cage. >> are we on the right track? do we slow down and stay the course as the first push would have said? just wait?
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what do we do? >> they are gaining power by holding territory and building recruits. the fighters for isis are foreign fighters but many are sunnis from the town they are taking. they are building loyalty like hezbollah does in iran. there is a real challenge. the united states should not and will not put boots on the ground. we might put air controllers down to help. it is not our place to put troops in there now. will the saudis and turks put troops on the ground? probably not. you are left with a very difficult conversation. we can't support the syrian military while it is part of assad's regime, while it is in place. we have to figure out a way to get a thought out. we have to cooperate with the yush y russians and iranians. we are going to have more right after this. t 6:30 a.m. - on the nose.
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eight minutes before the hour. let's bring in retired army colonel thomas lynch, former special assistant to the chief of staff. he is not here to speak on behalf of the pentagon or the university. he speaks for himself. we appreciate that. thank you. >> great to be here, sheppard.
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>> we just heard, no, you don't send troops on the ground. that would be absurd. you have to find others to do some fighting there. doesn't look like the turks will do much else. the saudis won't put anybody there. i guess what we're left with is peshmerga and sunni fighters. is that right? >> well, i think you're basically right. i think we're talking about peshmerga and shia fighters. >> shia. >> although perhaps your comment about sunni is not that far off. my experience working in iraq the last decade or so, it is the case that a lot of this insurgency, civil war, perhaps round two is defection by sunnis in western iraq. so it will require a reorganization and a reapproach by the government, shia-led government in baghdad to start strip eight way some of the sunnis that will soon, i would predict, find it very intolerable to live under the shadow of the very reimpressive and xenophobic foreign fighters that have mixed in with isil and
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the baathist elements that seem to be driving this insurgency in western iraq. >> i hear exactly what you're saying. we have to give these people who might have nothing else but isis to go to another place to go, and that means, as they've been telling us from the beginning, get this government right in baghdad. are we spending enough time working on that government, getting it right, making it inclusive? >> well, shep, i think you hit the nail on the head. i think that is in fact -- and i think our administrations are telling us this the last several weeks if not months that that is the point and priority. i think there's some movement in that direction. i know we're encouraging it in baghdad, but i think the wheels are moving kind of slow. therefore it's going to take longer i think to have us involved with what we see right now, kind of the military disrupt an air campaign to prevent isis from getting comfortable, to prevent those that are involved with them that are former baathists or western sunnis so they look for the alternative that we hopefully see in the next several weeks if not months coming out of baghdad for more inclusive governance and military.
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>> we can hope. retired army colonel thomas lynch, great to talk to you. thank you. >> thanks, shep. >> we'll look back to this day in history in just a moment. plus, pharrell and really, dallas cowboys? are you serious? this is new and it's next.
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so ally bank really has no hidden fethat's right. accounts? it's just that i'm worried about you know "hidden things..." ok, why's that? no hidden fees, from the bank where no branches equals great rates. we were talking about how good "the voice" was last night. but then there's pharrell. what did you say about his hat? >> ugly christmas sweater. >> speaking of ugly, the dallas
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cowboys, look at this. randall joseph, running back, two-year pro, arrested yesterday for stealing at a shopping center. what did he steal, sheppard? well, he stole two pair of polo underwear and colon. tester colon. and that was his mug shot. cowboys are winning but then there's that. and on this day in 1947, chuck jager broke the sound barrier. the u.s. air force captain flew an expermital rocket plane over california at more than 660 miles an hour, the first person and aircraft to travel faster than speed of sound. jager named the plane glamorous gle glennis after his wife. supersonic 67 years ago today. earlier the dow was supersonic. up more than 100 points.
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now it's up -- down. it's down again. these people are finicky but with all the volatility the traders are making money. the bank and the traders are doing just great. isn't that great? 70%, the death rate from ebola just being raised over there as hospitals scramble to get prepar welcome, everyone. i'm stuart in for neil cavuto and this is "your world." 70% is an alarming number. even more alarming the world health organization now estimates we could soon see 10,000 new cases of ebola each week. scares from the outbreak continue to mount across the country. most have been false alarms but a second case in texas sparking fears that the disease could spread here. and moments from now officials in kansas will reveal if a patient being tested there has ebola.


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